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Flivver

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2:06PM
Nov-01-11


RStanton

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I'm curious about the origin of the word Flivver. All I know about it is that it has something to do with old cars. Can anyone help me?

3:20PM
Nov-01-11


EmmettRedd

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posts 412

Google can. It gives back lots of links.

5:39PM
Nov-01-11


Ron Draney

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posts 465

Post edited 5:40PM – Nov-01-11 by Ron Draney


Despite my fascination with the culture of the 1920s, my main association for the word flivver is as one of the few relatively common words with a double V. The others are various forms of the slangy verb "to rev" (revved, revving) and the adjective savvy.

I've never been able to find a good word with a double J, Q, X or Y, and most of the ones I have for K (chukker, pukka) are distinctly foreign. It might be fun to see who can come up with my examples for double H or W.

7:54PM
Nov-01-11


tromboniator

Member

posts 215

Hitchhike and glowworm?

9:46PM
Nov-01-11


Ron Draney

Member

posts 465

Well, that certainly didn't take long.

I would also have accepted fishhook and withhold.

10:53PM
Nov-01-11


tromboniator

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posts 215

Post edited 10:53PM – Nov-01-11 by tromboniator


When the mood is on me, it works; otherwise…

6:10AM
Nov-02-11


Glenn

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Post edited 6:49AM – Nov-02-11 by Glenn


Both powwow and bowwow work for ww, along with the dated plowwright.

I like shh with an alternate spelling with triple h, shhh.

For vv there is also the slang for divide, divvy, and the dated skivvies.

As for xx, of course, the super-heroes, like Mimic and Sunfire, who quit the group: ex-X-Men; recovering neurotics of a sort, ex-xenophobes; and over-the-hill percussion specialists, ex-xylophonists. Did you say there couldn't be a hyphen?

7:19AM
Nov-02-11


telemath

Member

posts 188

Roughhouse, withhold, fishhook

Weak:
Hajj
Exxon

5:37AM
Nov-06-11


CheddarMelt

Pittsburgh

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posts 65

Ron,
My favorite double-K word is "bookkeeper," because it also has the distinction of having three double letters in a row.

2:39PM
Nov-06-11


EmmettRedd

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posts 412

CheddarMelt said:

Ron,
My favorite double-K word is "bookkeeper," because it also has the distinction of having three double letters in a row.

And, I have heard that it is the only English word that does.

8:34PM
Jan-13-12


Bob Bridges

USA

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posts 395

Post edited 8:37PM – Jan-13-12 by Bob Bridges


Now, come on, you guys, this is cheating.  "Hitchhike", "glowworm", "fishhook", "withhold", "plowwright", "roughhouse" and "bookkeeper" are not words, in the sense of "flivver" and "skivvy", they're TWO words, no matter that we spell them without a space between them.  We are a Germanic language, after all.

"Powwow" and "bowwow" probably should be eliminated, too.  "Bowwow" not only is usually hyphenated but it's the merest reduplication.  "Powwow" might be reduplication, too, just not (originally) in English.  Let's be self-disciplined about this.

As for "flivver", it isn't a word for an old car, it's an old word for a car.  I used to see it as a slang term in books written before and around WWI; even then I got the impression it was no longer current, and by WWII it seems to have been out of date.  It says here it meant a cheap car, specifically the 1910 Model T.  "Origin unknown".

Hm, here's the entry on "powwow":

1620s, "priest, sorcerer," from a southern New England Algonquian language (probably Narragansett) powwow "shaman, medicine man, Indian priest," from a verb meaning "to use divination, to dream," from Proto-Algonquian *pawe:wa "he dreams, one who dreams." Meaning "magical ceremony among N.Amer. Indians" is recorded from 1660s. Sense of "council, conference, meeting" is first recorded 1812. Verb sense of "to confer, discuss" is attested from 1780.

10:55AM
Jan-14-12


Dick

Fort Worth, TX

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posts 95

Post edited 10:58AM – Jan-14-12 by Dick


I have always liked the title for the man who had a special little spot in the room to keep his balloons.   Balloonnookkeeper.  That's six in a row.  I have no self-discipline.

11:55AM
Jan-14-12


Bob Bridges

USA

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posts 395

Aaarrrgh!  <tears at hair>

11:18AM
Feb-03-12


Lee

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posts 41

Courtesy of a recent PGW re-read: chivvy.

2:07AM
Feb-04-12


tromboniator

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posts 215

Post edited 2:08AM – Feb-04-12 by tromboniator


Well, now, Brother Bob, I'm afraid I have to disagree with you. If compound words are merely two words with the space removed, then we should be able to reinsert the space with no harm to the meaning, shouldn't we? A book keeper is the same as a bookkeeper? I don't think so. A high chair is the same as a highchair? I see differences. Hot head and hothead? Dumbbell? Smallpox? Bobsled? I think each of these is a single word just as a single compound is formed from two (or more) chemical elements. The elements are still discernible, but the properties are different from either. I concede that for the purposes of the double-letter search using them may be slightly underhanded!

 

Navvy.

1:47PM
Feb-04-12


Bob Bridges

USA

Member

posts 395

Nah, you're not disagreeing with me.  I wasn't saying (at least I wasn't trying to say) that compound words are synonymous with the same two words separated by a space; I was just saying that if you're looking for single words with rare double consonants (words like "flivver"), then compound words shouldn't be counted.

2:31PM
Feb-04-12


Dick

Fort Worth, TX

Member

posts 95

The game has its own rules