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11:33AM
Jan-15-12


JKGlover

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posts 2

I have always said that someone 'graduated from' a particular school but I hear other people say 'graduated' college.  Which way is correct?  With or without the 'from'?

1:24PM
Jan-15-12


EmmettRedd

Admin

posts 412

I could say, "I graduated graduate school."

AND

I could say, "I graduated from the University of Missouri at Rolla" (now, the Missouri University of Science and Technology).

It looks like the general is differentiated from the specific, but I cannot tell why.

Emmett

2:57PM
Jan-15-12


Jackie

Spring Green, WI

Member

posts 71

Post edited 2:57PM – Jan-15-12 by Jackie


I choose "from —."  To my ear, "graduated high school" (or college) just sounds incorrect.  I don't know if it is.  I'm sure someone here will know.  I do know this is something I've been hearing more and more, in the past number of years.  I don't remember anyone saying it when I graduated from high school.  Or, when I graduated from college.

3:26PM
Jan-15-12


JKGlover

New Member

posts 2

I'm glad to learn that I'm not the only one who thinks it sounds incorrect without the 'from'.  I too have been hearing it more and more without the 'from' and it drives me crazy.  But perhaps, both ways of saying it are acceptable.  I'll be curious to hear other peoples' thoughts on this.

4:51PM
Jan-15-12


Bob Bridges

USA

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posts 395

Speaking as an old coot, I believe "graduated college" used to be considered correct, but people took up saying "graduate from college" in my day, to be complained at by the even older geezers.  That battle, it seemed, was lost; but now, as you say, "graduated college" seems to be coming back.

Me, I confess I prefer "graduated" without "from", partly because I heard it was right but mostly because no one else does it that way.  I like to be different.

10:08PM
Jan-15-12


Dick

Fort Worth, TX

Member

posts 95

Maybe I have a simple mind, but this seems like a very simple problem.  It is the difference between transitive and intransitive verbs.  Graduate may be used either way.  A transitive verb has an object and an intransitive verb does not. So, "I graduated from the school" is used as an intransitive verb, requiring no object and the preposition from.  If you say, "I graduated the school" you have changed it to a transitive verb making "the school" the object which is acted upon.  It would be correct to say, "The school graduated me."  Again a transitive verb but in this case it is "me" that is receiving the action, or the "graduating."  I can not "graduate the school" any more than "the school graduates from me."

It seems to me that this is misused more frequently every day.  I can not understand why, if someone actually graduated, they don't know this simple rule about verbs.

12:16AM
Jan-16-12


Ron Draney

Member

posts 465

I was a chemistry minor, so "graduate" was the name of those straight-sided glass vessels with feet (the straight-sided glass vessels without feet are, of course, test tubes), with volumetric markings up the side. ("Hand me that 100ml graduate, will you?") Language and business students insisted on calling them "graduated cylinders".

5:03AM
Jan-16-12


tromboniator

Member

posts 215

I started out as chemistry major, but I insisted that it was a "graduated cylinder," so they turned me into an English major. Then I graduated FROM college.

9:39AM
Jan-16-12


Bob Bridges

USA

Member

posts 395

Dick said:

…."I graduated from the school" is used as an intransitive verb, requiring no object and the preposition "from"….It would be correct to say "The school graduated me"….I cannot "graduate the school" any more than "the school graduates from me."

I started to make this very point about transitive and intransitive verbs, but then realized I couldn't see where it would end up.  That is, it seemed to end up where you led it, Dick—that "to graduate school" is incorrect—yet I already believed that conclusion was wrong.

Why do I believe it's wrong?  Well, the only theory I really believe is that it's because I learned decades ago, from elders who also cared about such as "whom" and the subjunctive mood, that the correct phrase though often misused is "I graduated college".  They turned out to be right about other things, so…  And by the way, they are no particular they; it's just an unattributed voice I found in the older writings back then.

So now I've spent the last 15 minutes confidently looking for other old guys like me to speak up and say that "graduated college" used to be considered the correct way, and in the process I ran across another usage that shook me:  "I was graduated from college".  Ah, maybe that (and not "graduated college") is the usage my elders repeatedly pushed at me.  I think I'm going to have to reverse my ruling, above; I'm no longer sure, and all the evidence seems to be against me.

3:45PM
Jan-16-12


tromboniator

Member

posts 215

According to M-W the older (19th century) form is that the school graduates the student, so "I was graduated [by the school] from the school." At that point, "I graduated from" was in the doghouse. Now, "I graduated from" is ascendent, with the student graduating the school trailing (and often condemned) but apparently gaining. My stubbornness requires me to stick with "graduate from," although I can sense, if not describe, the logic of graduating the school, though with distaste.  I doubt there is any danger of that graduating to "the school graduates from me."

 

Peter

5:52PM
Feb-02-12


bookguy42

Nepean, Ontario, Canada

Member

posts 3

Hi.  "Graduate from" sounds more comfortable to my ear.  I'm in my mid forties and graduated from high school in the 1980s.

 

Saying that I graduated high school or was graduated sounds so ugly.  On the other hand, universities (or colleges, if you are in the United States) have graduate programs.  So you could say that you graduated from a graduate program at the University of Toronto, Harvard, Yale, University of Manitoba, etc.