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6:24PM
Jul-28-08


Laure

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I heard your show, and loved it!
I want to know the origin and meaning of the phrase, “drinking tea is not chopping wood”

Thanks
Laure

8:31PM
Jul-28-08


martha

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martha

posts 453

Hi, Laure! Welcome, and thanks for the kind words. Hmmm, I can’t say I’ve heard of that one, although I suppose it’s true, don’t you think? Where’d you hear it?

10:56PM
Jul-28-08


Joie de Vivienne

Nineveh, Indiana

posts 31

Correct me if I’m way off base, but I’ve seen variations of this phrase in reference to Zen or za-zen in new-agey sort of discussions. Sometimes it is mentioned in the context tea drinking around Russian samovars or in Chinese tea ceremonies to describe the value of doing something for its own inherent value –i.e. if you’re thinking about tea while chopping wood, you’re not really living in the present moment.

Here is a passage in The Miracle of Mindfulness: An Introduction to the Practice of Meditation By Thich Nhat Hanh which is perhaps relevant. See pages 23-24.

http://books.google.com/books?id=-SuJJ7LXjvgC&pg=PA24&lpg=PA24&dq=Thich+Nhat+chop+wood+drink+tea&source=web&ots=JMRw5JM846&sig=kAU9ql8CrJryMByylQnIp90yam8&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=10&ct=result

Does this even seem close?

2:38PM
Jul-30-08


martha

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martha

posts 453

Huh. Could be, Joie. I’ll be interested to know where Laure heard the expression.

2:16PM
Aug-06-08


rusty79

posts 1

hello everyone,
I think Joie is correct as well. I have done a lot of reading and discovered that the “tea ceremony” is very integral in some cultures. It can be used as a clearing between two people or to show great honor and respect.

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