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Help me with a word… Deaner? or Deener?

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1:24PM
Apr-25-08


OgdenRogers

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I hope I’m not wasting bandwidth… but I’m struggling with a word that is driving me insane.
I’m sure I’ve heard or seen this word before… but for the life of me I cannot find it in any of today’s’ dictionaries.

The word sounds like “deaner” or “deener” (but I guess could also be spelled diener)… where I THOUGHT I heard it used once as a name for someone who worked as church sexton or verger or morgue or graveyard attendant. I cannot find this word defined anywhere, yet I am sure it is a word.

Please help before I go crazy… If this really is a name for church custodian or a morgue worker (or anything remotely similar) please contact me and provide some info. If not… I guess it’s just some nonsense that I made up!

Ogden.w.rogers@uwrf.edu

Ogden Rogers
Professor of Social Work
University of Wisconsin-River Falls, USA

6:22AM
Apr-26-08


Grant Barrett

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Brooklyn, New York

posts 347

Could it be beadle? “A minor parish official whose duties include ushering and preserving order at services and sometimes civil functions.” I know it doesn’t begin with a “d” but it could otherwise fit.

9:28AM
Apr-26-08


Wordsmith

posts 158

“Deaner” is indeed a word and it is an assistant to one conducting an autopsy. “Deaner” (usu. spelt “deener”) is also Australian slang for a shilling.

9:45AM
Apr-26-08


Timber Beast

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According to “Police Procedure & Investigation: A Guide for Writers” by Lee Lofland, a “diener” is an autopsy technician and means “servant.”

3:08PM
Apr-26-08


Grant Barrett

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Brooklyn, New York

posts 347

Wordsmith and Timber Beast have it. It’s from the German Diener (first sense) and means servant, manservant, server, valet, butler, slave, or attendant, depending upon the context.

12:55PM
Apr-27-08


Wordsmith

posts 158

Also, cf. German “Dienst,” service.

11:59AM
Jun-09-08


OgdenRogers

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Thanks so much to everybody… upon further investigation I did indeed find it also in Dorland’ s Illustrated medical dictionary: “from Diener- “servant”: a man-of-all-work in a laboratory”.

This makes sense… the place where I heared this word first used was a small hospital in Berks County, Pennsylvania, which had a long Pennsylvania German influence in many words.

Ogden Rogers, Ph.D.
Professor of Social Work
University of Wisconsin-River Falls, USA

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