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12:41PM Dec-04-08
| Grant Barrett
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1:33PM Dec-04-08
| EmmettRedd
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To his list, from our small rural area, I can probably add 20 Farmers who, ta da, farm or, at least, grew up on one.
Is there another term for made-up pairings (like book titles and authors)? Examples: 1) 'Redundant Systems' by Justin Case and 2) 'Forty-eight Yards to the Outhouse' by Willie Makeit, illustrated by Betty Dont.
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10:36AM Dec-07-08
| Bill 5
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Grant – I’m surprised at you! Aptronyms are an awful lot like puns, you know!
(My Dad used to say, “Puns are the lowest form of wit. Or, for some people, wit-out!”)
This kind of book title / author pun pairing has a name. It’s published in the “think&grin” jokes pages in Boys’ Life magazine, published by the Boy Scouts of America for nearly a century. It’s one of the five standard joke types used in think&grin – 14 occurrences this month alone, and is known as “A book never written”. I’d guess it goes back at least to the mid-twentieth century.
Examples from the Dec. ’08 edition:
A book never written: “A Scout Is Thrifty” by Xavier Allowance.
A book never written: “Building Snowmen” by I.C. Fingers.
A book never written: “None Taken” by Noah Fence.
The other standard think&grin joke types are Tom Swifties, Daffynitions, the Warped Wiseman, and the three-liners. Examples of all of these types can be seen at boyslife.org.
(Boys receive a patch and a new Handbook or Fieldbook when their joke is published.)
Finally, while writing this, my son (on the adjacent computer) was playing Halo online, and there’s another related category of pun names – the character name chosen in online games. In Halo, the payoff is when you kill another player, and it says: “You were killed by _____.” Popular names are A Vehicle (matches the message you get when you are run over by an unoccupied vehicle), Yo Mama (always popular), an Internet Glitch, a Random Event, etc.
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11:13AM Dec-07-08
| Grant Barrett
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Bill, that's exactly where I first caught on to them. I remember one titled "The Outhouse" by Willy Makeit and Betty Dont.
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8:09AM Dec-08-08
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Grant Barrett said:
You know, aptronyms… like when a gynecologist is named Seymour Bush. A column about names accidentally befitting the named.
But an even better one, I thought, was the Hungarian gynecologist Dr. Zoltan Ovary (Óváry being a Hungarian name meaning "of the old castle" or from the town called Óvár – old castle). This from an issue of Reader's Digest some time in the 1970s. Also the CEO of the largest Dutch bank (till it was nationalised in the recent financial crisis), ABN Amro, is Rijkman (Dutch for "rich man") Groenink. And in Kingston, Ontario, there was (perhaps still is) a law firm called B. Lawless.
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9:25AM Dec-08-08
| martha
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Oh golly, Monica, I remember that Reader's Digest article, too! I remember some line in there about "This Dr. Doctor's Nurse Nurse." Do you remember that part? Have always wanted to see that article again.
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7:34PM Dec-08-08
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A realty company of over fifty years in business with "Robcon "as their name.I do not think they have a clue.
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11:21AM Dec-09-08
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When I was in college, I had an optometrist whose name was Dr. Seymour Landa!
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6:27AM Dec-10-08
| Hansen
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Two peerless Chinese writers and language gurus:
1.林語堂 (YuTang Lin):A hall of words/languages
2.錢锺书 (ZhongShu Qian):fall in love with books
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2:55PM Dec-11-08
| lindzlou
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There was a goalie in the NHL named Steve Shields. I loved that.
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7:50AM Mar-25-10
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At the end of the NPR program "Car Talk", the guys usually read a few of their own "aptonyms" as credits. Their list is available at http://www.cartalk.com/content…..edits.html.
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2:51PM Mar-25-10
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Spelling aside, the phonetics are identical.
Peter Stingi is the paymaster at Merrill Lynch & Company. He's the "global compensation management" chief.
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8:12PM Mar-25-10
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I remember a wonderful book I came across years ago entitled "Remarkable Names of Real People". Sorry I don't have the author's name handy. A few of my favorites;
Aristotle Tottle *a feeble little pirate*
Shanda Lear *a daughter of the family that owns Lear Jets*
Cummins & Goins *a law firm*
And I leave you with a local one for the francophiles in the forum. I have no idea what to call a cross-linguistic pun, but a local baker who studied as a pastry chef in france opened up a local bakery called 'Blue Lawn Chair'.
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3:41PM Apr-30-10
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In the world of finance, a "quant" is someone who applies mathematical techniques to financial investment, a quantitative analyst.
I just learned of an emeritus professor of Economics at Princeton University whose name is Richard E. Quandt, Hughes-Rogers Professor of Economics, Emeritus. Senior Economist.
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9:40AM May-01-10
| David Hoffman
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Post edited 9:41AM – May-01-10 by David Hoffman
An absolutely true story: my Middle School Home Economics teacher was named Mrs. House. She flunked me for not paying attention during sewing.
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7:45PM May-01-10
| robkeim
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Is there a word for when it ironically the opposite? Our school's past disciplinarian was named Mr. Sugar, and we also have a very strict math teacher named Mrs. Sweet. I remember having a very mousy substitute teacher (about five-foot two, 100 pounds) named Mr. Musselman.
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1:05AM May-02-10
| Markctf
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And where would you put things like the closing strains of "The Car Guys" radio show? Statician Marge N OfError, Chauffer Pickup Andropov, etc. My personal favorite is Chairman Mao's brother, Stickout TseTung.
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3:10PM May-18-10
| Heimhenge
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Post edited 1:02AM – May-19-10 by Heimhenge
This is a funny thread. Takes me back to some of those bad puns we had in grade school. I recalled several of those "book title + author" examples … one not mentioned I do recall is "Bloody Stub" by Rusty Zipper.
But seriously folks, there is a dentist here in Phoenix with the name "Pullem" on his billboard. I do not know if his first name starts with the letter "I" but wouldn't that be cool if it did?
By the way, this is my first post on this forum. Been a fan of W3 for years. So greetings to all!
Dan Heim
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too dark to read." — Groucho Marx
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4:57PM May-20-10
| dulcimoo
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Phil said:
I remember a wonderful …;
Shanda Lear *a daughter of the family that owns Lear Jets*
Lear is the name of the guy that started the company. Like Ford is the last name of Henry Ford, who started Ford. I don't see what is so remarkable. Or am I missing somthing?
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5:42PM May-20-10
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Phil – no, Shanda Lear isn't an aptonym. It's just remarkable for her parents' choice of given name. "Remarkable Names of Real People (or How to Name Your Baby)" doesn't claim to only contain aptonyms, though it does contain many, such as "Dr. Zoltan Ovary" (gynecologist).
The book's author is John Train. (He had a couple of follow-up books on names, and several others on remarkable occurrences, words, etc.) As far as the names he collected, "Major Minor" (U.S. Army) and "Cardinal Sin" (former Archbishop of Manila; yes, these two are somewhat contrived since they involve titles), along with Ima and Ura Hogg were always among my favorites.
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7:05PM May-20-10
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dulcimoo said:
Phil said:
I remember a wonderful …;
Shanda Lear *a daughter of the family that owns Lear Jets*
Lear is the name of the guy that started the company. Like Ford is the last name of Henry Ford, who started Ford. I don't see what is so remarkable. Or am I missing somthing?
The spelling obscures the joke, but say it out loud. Shanda Lear / chandelier. I hear she was brilliant and dependable.
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2:28PM Jun-01-10
| dulcimoo
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Glenn said:
dulcimoo said:
Phil said:
I remember a wonderful …;
Shanda Lear *a daughter of the family that owns Lear Jets*
Lear is the name of the guy that started the company. Like Ford is the last name of Henry Ford, who started Ford. I don't see what is so remarkable. Or am I missing somthing?
The spelling obscures the joke, but say it out loud. Shanda Lear / chandelier. I hear she was brilliant and dependable.
Ummmm…yah. Well this is a stretch.
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4:02PM Nov-11-10
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My daughter has a Doctor who has the last name Doctor. My wife giggles every time they call from Dr. Doctor's office.
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5:15PM Dec-13-10
| dhenderson
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Lee said:
Ima and Ura Hogg were always among my favorites.
Ima Hogg was a very real person, quite important in the history of Houston.
My favorite of the aptronymous book titles is "Stains on the Bedsheet, by Mister Completely."
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11:13PM Dec-13-10
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dhenderson said:
Lee said:
Ima and Ura Hogg were always among my favorites.
Ima Hogg was a very real person, quite important in the history of Houston.
My favorite of the aptronymous book titles is "Stains on the Bedsheet, by Mister Completely."
Oh, yes – Train's assertion was that all the names were real and documented. It appears that he was wrong about Ura Hogg, however (at least according to the Wiki article you quoted).
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8:02PM Apr-22-11
| cougar2shoes
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A neighbor of ours for a while in OKC lived with the name and title of Colonel Corn.Even as a 9 year old I thought it was funny.
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6:00AM Jun-08-11
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Post edited 6:48AM – Jun-08-11 by Glenn
Summer is upon us. So it is fitting that we are engaging in a national Weiner roast. It is high time for the subject of aptonyms/aptronyms to rise again. This article claims that the word aptonym (sans r) was coined in 1992 by "Frank Nuessel, a linguistics professor at the University of Louisville, and editor of American Name Society publication NAMES: A Journal of Onomastics."
This article also explores the pathos of Louisville attorney, Richard Head, and his progeny.
Weiner name game draws out our wurst
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Note: Google books can verify that the word aptronym (with r) predates 1992 by over 40 years, and maybe much more. There are undeniable references to aptronym, with definition, in 1949. There is also a reference in 1920 that appears to be saying that the word aptronym is recognized as a valid new word. So, unfortunately, I have to go with Grant and his choice of aptronym over aptonym.
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