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You know, aptronyms…like when a gynecologist is named Seymour Bush

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12:41PM
Dec-04-08


Grant Barrett

San Diego, California

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You know, aptronyms… like when a gynecologist is named Seymour Bush. A column about names accidentally befitting the named.

1:33PM
Dec-04-08


EmmettRedd

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To his list, from our small rural area, I can probably add 20 Farmers who, ta da, farm or, at least, grew up on one.

Is there another term for made-up pairings (like book titles and authors)? Examples: 1) 'Redundant Systems' by Justin Case and 2) 'Forty-eight Yards to the Outhouse' by Willie Makeit, illustrated by Betty Dont.

Emmett

10:36AM
Dec-07-08


Bill 5

Dana Point, CA

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posts 76

Grant – I’m surprised at you! Aptronyms are an awful lot like puns, you know!
(My Dad used to say, “Puns are the lowest form of wit. Or, for some people, wit-out!”)

This kind of book title / author pun pairing has a name. It’s published in the “think&grin” jokes pages in Boys’ Life magazine, published by the Boy Scouts of America for nearly a century. It’s one of the five standard joke types used in think&grin – 14 occurrences this month alone, and is known as “A book never written”. I’d guess it goes back at least to the mid-twentieth century.

Examples from the Dec. ’08 edition:
A book never written: “A Scout Is Thrifty” by Xavier Allowance.
A book never written: “Building Snowmen” by I.C. Fingers.
A book never written: “None Taken” by Noah Fence.

The other standard think&grin joke types are Tom Swifties, Daffynitions, the Warped Wiseman, and the three-liners. Examples of all of these types can be seen at boyslife.org.

(Boys receive a patch and a new Handbook or Fieldbook when their joke is published.)

Finally, while writing this, my son (on the adjacent computer) was playing Halo online, and there’s another related category of pun names – the character name chosen in online games. In Halo, the payoff is when you kill another player, and it says: “You were killed by _____.” Popular names are A Vehicle (matches the message you get when you are run over by an unoccupied vehicle), Yo Mama (always popular), an Internet Glitch, a Random Event, etc.

11:13AM
Dec-07-08


Grant Barrett

San Diego, California

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Bill, that's exactly where I first caught on to them. I remember one titled "The Outhouse" by Willy Makeit and Betty Dont. :)

8:09AM
Dec-08-08


Monica Sandor

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Grant Barrett said:

You know, aptronyms… like when a gynecologist is named Seymour Bush. A column about names accidentally befitting the named.


But an even better one, I thought, was the Hungarian gynecologist Dr. Zoltan Ovary (Óváry being a Hungarian name meaning "of the old castle" or from the town called Óvár – old castle). This from an issue of Reader's Digest some time in the 1970s. Also the CEO of the largest Dutch bank (till it was nationalised in the recent financial crisis), ABN Amro, is Rijkman (Dutch for "rich man") Groenink. And in Kingston, Ontario, there was (perhaps still is) a law firm called B. Lawless.

Monica Sandor

9:25AM
Dec-08-08


martha

martha

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Oh golly, Monica, I remember that Reader's Digest article, too! I remember some line in there about "This Dr. Doctor's Nurse Nurse." Do you remember that part? Have always wanted to see that article again.

7:34PM
Dec-08-08


oli

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A realty company of over fifty years in business with "Robcon "as their name.I do not think they have a clue.

11:21AM
Dec-09-08


macnicol

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When I was in college, I had an optometrist whose name was Dr. Seymour Landa!

6:27AM
Dec-10-08


Hansen

中國上海

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posts 19

Two peerless Chinese writers and language gurus:
1.林語堂 (YuTang Lin):A hall of words/languages
2.錢锺书 (ZhongShu Qian):fall in love with books

郑翰森 Χανσον Hanson Zheng

2:55PM
Dec-11-08


lindzlou

Hillcrest, CA

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posts 10

There was a goalie in the NHL named Steve Shields. I loved that.

7:50AM
Mar-25-10


johng423

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posts 127

At the end of the NPR program "Car Talk", the guys usually read a few of their own "aptonyms" as credits. Their list is available at http://www.cartalk.com/content…..edits.html.

2:51PM
Mar-25-10


Glenn

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Spelling aside, the phonetics are identical.

Peter Stingi is the paymaster at Merrill Lynch & Company. He's the "global compensation management" chief.

Stingy Stingi

8:12PM
Mar-25-10


Phil

Member

posts 44

I remember a wonderful book I came across years ago entitled "Remarkable Names of Real People". Sorry I don't have the author's name handy. A few of my favorites;

Aristotle Tottle *a feeble little pirate*
Shanda Lear *a daughter of the family that owns Lear Jets*
Cummins & Goins *a law firm*

And I leave you with a local one for the francophiles in the forum. I have no idea what to call a cross-linguistic pun, but a local baker who studied as a pastry chef in france opened up a local bakery called 'Blue Lawn Chair'.

3:41PM
Apr-30-10


Glenn

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In the world of finance, a "quant" is someone who applies mathematical techniques to financial investment, a quantitative analyst.

I just learned of an emeritus professor of Economics at Princeton University whose name is Richard E. Quandt, Hughes-Rogers Professor of Economics, Emeritus. Senior Economist.

9:40AM
May-01-10


David Hoffman

Brooklyn, NY

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Post edited 9:41AM – May-01-10 by David Hoffman


An absolutely true story: my Middle School Home Economics teacher was named Mrs. House. She flunked me for not paying attention during sewing.

7:45PM
May-01-10


robkeim

Upstate NY

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Is there a word for when it ironically the opposite? Our school's past disciplinarian was named Mr. Sugar, and we also have a very strict math teacher named Mrs. Sweet. I remember having a very mousy substitute teacher (about five-foot two, 100 pounds) named Mr. Musselman.

1:05AM
May-02-10


Markctf

Milwaukee, WI

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And where would you put things like the closing strains of "The Car Guys" radio show? Statician Marge N OfError, Chauffer Pickup Andropov, etc. My personal favorite is Chairman Mao's brother, Stickout TseTung.

3:10PM
May-18-10


Heimhenge

New River, AZ, USA

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posts 312

Post edited 1:02AM – May-19-10 by Heimhenge


This is a funny thread. Takes me back to some of those bad puns we had in grade school. I recalled several of those "book title + author" examples … one not mentioned I do recall is "Bloody Stub" by Rusty Zipper.

But seriously folks, there is a dentist here in Phoenix with the name "Pullem" on his billboard. I do not know if his first name starts with the letter "I" but wouldn't that be cool if it did?

By the way, this is my first post on this forum. Been a fan of W3 for years. So greetings to all!

Dan Heim
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too dark to read." — Groucho Marx

4:57PM
May-20-10


dulcimoo

San Diego, CA, USA

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posts 12

Phil said:

I remember a wonderful …;
Shanda Lear *a daughter of the family that owns Lear Jets*


Lear is the name of the guy that started the company. Like Ford is the last name of Henry Ford, who started Ford. I don't see what is so remarkable. Or am I missing somthing?

5:42PM
May-20-10


Lee

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posts 41

Phil – no, Shanda Lear isn't an aptonym. It's just remarkable for her parents' choice of given name. "Remarkable Names of Real People (or How to Name Your Baby)" doesn't claim to only contain aptonyms, though it does contain many, such as "Dr. Zoltan Ovary" (gynecologist).

The book's author is John Train. (He had a couple of follow-up books on names, and several others on remarkable occurrences, words, etc.) As far as the names he collected, "Major Minor" (U.S. Army) and "Cardinal Sin" (former Archbishop of Manila; yes, these two are somewhat contrived since they involve titles), along with Ima and Ura Hogg were always among my favorites.

7:05PM
May-20-10


Glenn

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dulcimoo said:

Phil said:

I remember a wonderful …;
Shanda Lear *a daughter of the family that owns Lear Jets*


Lear is the name of the guy that started the company. Like Ford is the last name of Henry Ford, who started Ford. I don't see what is so remarkable. Or am I missing somthing?


The spelling obscures the joke, but say it out loud. Shanda Lear / chandelier. I hear she was brilliant and dependable.

2:28PM
Jun-01-10


dulcimoo

San Diego, CA, USA

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Glenn said:

dulcimoo said:

Phil said:

I remember a wonderful …;
Shanda Lear *a daughter of the family that owns Lear Jets*


Lear is the name of the guy that started the company. Like Ford is the last name of Henry Ford, who started Ford. I don't see what is so remarkable. Or am I missing somthing?


The spelling obscures the joke, but say it out loud. Shanda Lear / chandelier. I hear she was brilliant and dependable.


Ummmm…yah. Well this is a stretch.

4:02PM
Nov-11-10


tomfornicola

New Member

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My daughter has a Doctor who has the last name Doctor. My wife giggles every time they call from Dr. Doctor's office.

5:15PM
Dec-13-10


dhenderson

Sunnyvale, CA

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posts 71

Lee said:

Ima and Ura Hogg were always among my favorites.


Ima Hogg was a very real person, quite important in the history of Houston.

My favorite of the aptronymous book titles is "Stains on the Bedsheet, by Mister Completely."

I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.

11:13PM
Dec-13-10


Lee

Member

posts 41

dhenderson said:

Lee said:

Ima and Ura Hogg were always among my favorites.


Ima Hogg was a very real person, quite important in the history of Houston.

My favorite of the aptronymous book titles is "Stains on the Bedsheet, by Mister Completely."


Oh, yes – Train's assertion was that all the names were real and documented. It appears that he was wrong about Ura Hogg, however (at least according to the Wiki article you quoted).

8:02PM
Apr-22-11


cougar2shoes

Mountains of northern New Mexico

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posts 7

A neighbor of ours for a while in OKC lived with the name and title of Colonel Corn.Even as a 9 year old I thought it was funny.

6:00AM
Jun-08-11


Glenn

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Post edited 6:48AM – Jun-08-11 by Glenn


Summer is upon us. So it is fitting that we are engaging in a national Weiner roast. It is high time for the subject of aptonyms/aptronyms to rise again. This article claims that the word aptonym (sans r) was coined in 1992 by "Frank Nuessel, a linguistics professor at the University of Louisville, and editor of American Name Society publication NAMES: A Journal of Onomastics."

This article also explores the pathos of Louisville attorney, Richard Head, and his progeny.

Weiner name game draws out our wurst

[edit: added the following]
Note: Google books can verify that the word aptronym (with r) predates 1992 by over 40 years, and maybe much more. There are undeniable references to aptronym, with definition, in 1949. There is also a reference in 1920 that appears to be saying that the word aptronym is recognized as a valid new word. So, unfortunately, I have to go with Grant and his choice of aptronym over aptonym.